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...what I believe, like many Israelis, is that the way is to start a new page, to get out of the Occupied Territories and to live side by side with the Palestinians (...) but the reality of the matter is that it is Israel that is not willing to recognize the right of the Palestinians to exist as a state. [Based on March 19 2007 broadcast by democracynow.org at Reinhart's sudden death; transcript of the broadcast follows, including lenghty quotes of interviews.]
AMY GOODMAN: We end today with the Israeli linguist, author and peace activist Tanya Reinhart, who died this weekend of a stroke here in the United States at the age of sixty-three. Tanya Reinhart was one of the most outspoken critics of Israeli government policies and one of Israel's leading advocates for Palestinian national rights. She was professor emeritus of linguistics and media studies at Tel Aviv University and Global Distinguished Professor of Linguistics at New York University. She wrote columns for Israel's largest daily newspaper, Yediot Ahranot, and had an active following of readers around the world for her critical perspectives on the Israel-Palestine conflict. Her books include Israel-Palestine: How to End the War of 1948 and The Road Map to Nowhere. In December, she moved permanently to New York, saying she could no longer live in Israel due to its treatment of Palestinians in the Occupied Territories. Tanya Reinhart last appeared on Democracy Now! in October of 2004. TANYA REINHART: And what I believe, like many Israelis, is that the way is to start a new page, to get out of the Occupied Territories and to live side by side with the Palestinians. AMY GOODMAN: That was Tanya in October of 2004. In that broadcast, Juan Gonzalez, co-host of Democracy Now!, asked her about Democratic politics. We then are going to play a speech that she recently gave here in New York, just a few weeks ago during Israeli Apartheid Week. But this was Tanya Reinhart in 2004. TANYA REINHART: … will, peaceful intentions. And as long as this is the perspective, he can do whatever he wants in Gaza. He can do just the most horrible things, and it's true that the present actions of Israel in Gaza are getting much less attention than what happened in Jenin. JUAN GONZALEZ: Well, we were confronted in the past two weeks -- we've had two presidential -- two debates now, presidential debate and a vice-presidential debate, both supposedly geared especially toward foreign policy. We had the remarkable reality, a ninety-minute presidential debate on foreign policy, during which not one question was asked of the candidates about the Israeli-Palestinian situation. And only one question was asked of the vice-presidential candidates about the situation, so that we have the press here totally ignoring perhaps the biggest issue in the Arab world when dealing with foreign policy. And so, I think we're a little bit -- we’ve got a bigger problem, a much bigger problem, here than even in Israel. TANYA REINHART: Yeah. Well, the biggest problem, of course, is that both candidates fully back Israel. The Democrats are never different on that issue than the Republicans. So, none of what Israel has been doing would have been possible without the stable and constant US support. So, it's been an axiom in US politics that you don't touch Israel. Or if you do, you only can mention Israel's right to exist, but not the Palestinians’ right to exist. So, although this is not a change, Israeli policy has changed. So we're not now talking just about supporting the occupation, but supporting the atrocities, the daily killing of Palestinians. And since the situation has changed, it would be appropriate to hear more of the Democratic candidates also criticizing Israel. AMY GOODMAN: Tanya Reinhart, giving one of her last speeches, actually, just over a month ago. That discussion we had in October 2004. But she was just here in New York at St. Mary's Church. She was speaking as part of Israel Apartheid Week. TANYA REINHART: So, in the present world, not only the international community does not impose sanctions on Israel. In fact, it elected to impose sanctions on the Palestinians. Since the Palestinian elections, all funds to the Palestinian Authority, all funds to the even NGO organizations have been frozen. And Israel itself is holding tax monies that it owes the Palestinian. And the Palestinian economy is completely paralyzed with no salaries, no social services, no medical care or functioning hospitals. Just two years ago, the Western world hailed “the best of democracy in the Middle East” with Arafat departing and the Palestinian people getting ready for their elections. According to Jimmy Carter, in a report he wrote in the Herald Tribune, the Palestinian elections were, I quote, "honest, fair, strongly contested, without violence and with the result accepted by winners and losers." Among the sixty-two elections that had been monitored by the Carter Center, these are among the best in portraying the will of the people. In a just and well-ordered world, it would be unthinkable that a government that was elected in this kind of a process will be ignored just because Israel does not like the choice of the Palestinian people. But in a world in which the US rules, might is right, and might can define democracy as it wills. Thus, it was announced that the outcome of the Palestinian elections will not be recognized, and until this changes, the Palestinian people as a whole should be punished and starved. What we see now, since then, is that the US is trying, together with Israel, to impose a longstanding policy that they have always had of trying to push the society into civil war. They are doing this in Palestine by supporting collaborating forces like the forces of Dahlan in Gaza. They are trying to do the same in Lebanon. They are trying this in Iraq. This is the US policy. The Palestinian people so far have resisted this attempt to push them into a civil war, and they have managed to form a unity government. But just as we heard just yesterday, the US will not recognize -- following Israel’s demand -- will not recognize the new unity government and will continue the boycott. The way this is packed is the demand of the Palestinians -- the Palestinians are demanded to meet the quoted three demands, the three mantras that keep repeating. The first mantra is that the Palestinians should renounce violence, specifically Hamas should renounce violence. It's very hard to understand the content of this demand. Already in January 2005, when the Hamas announced that they are -- Hamas announced that they are going to move from armed struggle into political struggle and enter the elections, and since then, there wasn't a single terror attack perpetrated by the Hamas. According to Israeli security sources, the Hamas didn't even participate in launching of Kassams to Israel until the events of last summer, when Israel attacked Gaza. The second demand is that the Palestinians should recognize previous accords. In an interview with the the Washington Post already a year ago, Hamas Prime Minister Haniyeh explained that according to the Oslo Accords in 1993, five years later in ’98, there should have been already a Palestinian state. Instead, what Israel did during this whole period was appropriate more land, continue to colonize, to build settlements, and it did not keep a single clause of the Oslo Agreements. “From now on,” Haniyeh said, “we will only accept and respect agreements that are good for the Palestinian people.” Now, the third and crucial mantra that is being used to suffocate the Palestinian people is that the new government should recognize the existence of Israel. But the reality of the matter is that it is Israel that is not willing to recognize the right of the Palestinians to exist as a state. In the meeting of the Palestinian National Council in 1988, the Palestinian people have decided already that they are willing to accept a two-state solution within the borders of ’67 -- before the ’67 War, which for them means accepting to live in 22% of their historical land. Since then, Israel has not done a single thing to show that it’s willing accept this, to show that it’s willing to give the Palestinians a state in this little portion left of their land. AMY GOODMAN: Tanya Reinhart, the former Tel Aviv University professor, moved to New York in December, saying she could no longer live in Israel due to its treatment of Palestinians. The Israeli professor, linguist, author, activist died Saturday [17.03.07] of a stroke at the age of sixty-three. |